The conversation below follows on from the previous two days posts:
Dipa:
OK Mitr, let me know your thoughts - although they will not be your thoughts, they will be destiny's thoughts, or will they? Hmmm... "Destiny created mind but destiny still wins over the mind. So at the end I don’t know who wins."
What is destiny? Is destiny not what created by God? Destiny is also called "fate" and referred to as "that which is meant to be". Considering all of this, destiny is from God. If Destiny is from God, then surely God has given us the mind too.
Dipa:
OK Mitr, let me know your thoughts - although they will not be your thoughts, they will be destiny's thoughts, or will they? Hmmm... "Destiny created mind but destiny still wins over the mind. So at the end I don’t know who wins."
What is destiny? Is destiny not what created by God? Destiny is also called "fate" and referred to as "that which is meant to be". Considering all of this, destiny is from God. If Destiny is from God, then surely God has given us the mind too.
What is the mind? The mind is a tool which God has given us, so that we can make decisions and learn from. The mind is not the brain nor any other part of the body. It is a formless continuum that functions to perceive and understand objects. Because the mind is formless, or non-physical, by nature, it is not obstructed by physical objects. Thus, it is impossible for our body to go to the moon without traveling in a spaceship, but our mind can reach the moon in an instant just by thinking about it. Knowing and perceiving objects is the uncommon function of the mind. Although we say, "I know such and such", in reality it is our mind that knows. We know things only by using our mind.
"We think that mind is our friend and we own it and control the destiny with it"
I think that destiny is our friend, destiny owns us, and destiny controls the mind.
"So that is what is the battle between mind and the destiny and I don’t know who wins the battle."
There is no battle between mind and destiny. Destiny will always win, so where can there be a battle?
"Is it I winning the battle or the mind winning the battle whos the projection of destiny or I am just a puppet but I think I am dancing to the tune I like or the tune is impregnated with my liking by the destiny in mind so I like the tune and dance to it to claim that I do it."
You are not winning the battle. You are winning the battle. It depends on how the mind is thinking. You are the puppet with invisible strings. The invisible stings are part of destiny. The puppeter is God himself. The tune is part of destiny. The tune is from God. We are all puppets playing to God's tune. The mind needs to learn. Therefore sometimes the mind will desire something, but it is not destiny. Or sometimes destiny will give you something and the mind does not desire it. The mind needs to learn.
"But then where is my free will and return with the free will."
What is free will? Free will is that to unattach from destiny's path and chance destiny, or the impact of a milestone in destiny. This, can only be acheived through prayer and God's blessings.
Comments now please!
"We think that mind is our friend and we own it and control the destiny with it"
I think that destiny is our friend, destiny owns us, and destiny controls the mind.
"So that is what is the battle between mind and the destiny and I don’t know who wins the battle."
There is no battle between mind and destiny. Destiny will always win, so where can there be a battle?
"Is it I winning the battle or the mind winning the battle whos the projection of destiny or I am just a puppet but I think I am dancing to the tune I like or the tune is impregnated with my liking by the destiny in mind so I like the tune and dance to it to claim that I do it."
You are not winning the battle. You are winning the battle. It depends on how the mind is thinking. You are the puppet with invisible strings. The invisible stings are part of destiny. The puppeter is God himself. The tune is part of destiny. The tune is from God. We are all puppets playing to God's tune. The mind needs to learn. Therefore sometimes the mind will desire something, but it is not destiny. Or sometimes destiny will give you something and the mind does not desire it. The mind needs to learn.
"But then where is my free will and return with the free will."
What is free will? Free will is that to unattach from destiny's path and chance destiny, or the impact of a milestone in destiny. This, can only be acheived through prayer and God's blessings.
Comments now please!
2 comments:
Jay shree krishna Deepa,
I happen to came across your blog and find it worth reading , I am too working on Prophecy , choice and science of Karma ,
I have some points regarding what you have said.
"I think that destiny is our friend, destiny owns us, and destiny controls the mind."
>> meaning the term choice are fake and we are driven by destiny and not to the choices we do ??
Does this means that all commands of what to do / when to do are stored in mind and we are merely to perform the pre-written scripts in a drama ???
I am confused
I defer with your ideas on mind Dipa
Destiny doesn't create mind, Its the mind that creates destiny.
mind creates an attachment for things around and creates its own road of destiny because of these desires. It is because of this we take multiple rebirths.
Also Mind doesn't makes decisions, It is the intellectual phenomenon within us.
With proper use of the mind and Intellect and ya the real knowledge, we can control our life and the entire universe. I mean no strings attached. But there is a huge relation that is infinitely complex beyond your EGO that connects you to the rest of the universe and GOD.
Yes I do agree with most of your writings.
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